Honda Odyssey Vs Toyota Sienna 2020 Redesign And Review – honda odyssey vs toyota sienna 2020
From the September 2017 issue
These are not those vans. Those vans are best Volkswagens or bartering Ford Econolines, band and conversions as bright and abounding of appearance as their chambermaid owners. These are minivans, loaded with Blu-ray players and vacuums and three rows of kid-friendly buckets and benches. These are cartage advised for parenthood and responsibility, their owners accepting traded appearance for characters. “Barbie, Elmo, or SpongeBob? Which do you appetite to watch, honey?”
The redesigned 2018 Odyssey is the newest minivan on the market, the fifth bearing of Honda’s bodies mover. The aggregation claims that it has fabricated the segment’s best agent for seven years running, but Honda cast to calculation alone retail sales. If you attending at both retail and agile numbers, the 2016 appellation went to the Toyota Sienna by a attenuated margin; the Sienna additionally won our aftermost minivan comparo in 2015. However, Toyota awash aloof 127,791 Siennas aftermost year, while FCA abashed a absolute of 249,115 minivans breach amid three nameplates. The Dodge Grand Caravan and Chrysler Town & Country twins accounted for added than 186,000 units, with the blow of those sales acceptance to the new-for-2017 Chrysler Pacifica. The old Grand Caravan still soldiers on—and leads the 2017 sales chase so far. But it’s the Pacifica that represents the latest and greatest from the aggregation that invented the soccer mom.
While brand-spanking-new Dodges are actuality advertised locally for beneath $17,000, our analysis cartage absorb the adverse end of the minivan appraisement spectrum. These absolutely loaded examples buck prices abutting to $50,000. The Pacifica Limited has the everyman starting price, at $43,990, admitting already we added a rear-seat ball arrangement and driver-assistance features, it became the best expensive, at $48,780. Our Sienna Limited Premium is missing the avant-garde assurance appearance of the added two competitors, but still stickers for $47,855. The Elite-trimmed Odyssey carries a $47,610 abject price, which covers about aggregate you can bandy at the Honda, including a acceptable new infotainment system.
This is a able-bodied and aggressive market, in allotment because minivan architecture has coalesced about one formula: front-wheel drive, automated transmissions, aloof over 200 inches in length, seven- or eight-passenger seating, a barrier weight abreast 4600 pounds, and a V-6 agent authoritative about 285 application and 260 pound-feet of torque. It has fabricated minivans as changeable as pickups and aloof as acceptable to arouse the aforementioned angry cast loyalty. Still, there is one with which we’d best like to photobomb the Lake Michigan sunset.
Toyota’s minivan has been on auction for seven years afterwards a abounding overhaul. A brief assay arise our 2017 model-year van to be identical to the one we aftermost tested. Except this one is a ablaze color, which fabricated us anticipate that maybe the gray one we had the aftermost time had artlessly been anchored alfresco in the sun for too long.
Pulling assimilate the highway, we apparent what had afflicted in one apace accomplished merge: A new adaptation of the accumulated 3.5-liter V-6 is now underhood, adapted to accommodate both anchorage and absolute bang and akin to a new eight-speed transmission. This gives the Sienna the best ability in our analysis at 296 horses, and it ranks as our admired of the three engines. Weighing about 150 pounds added than the lightest van (the 4583-pound Honda), the Toyota isn’t as quick, but who cares about two-tenths of a additional in the quarter-mile in a minivan, really? The Sienna still moves aback asked acknowledgment to its quick-shifting and absolutely anticipated transmission, admitting a continued throttle-pedal biking seems advised to baffle agog driving. The Sienna’s aerial assimilation babble alike sounds appealing good, absolutely bigger than the blatant Honda.
The blow of this van, however, is assuming its age. Like best Toyotas, it appears to be engineered to be anatomic rather than exceptional. Its advanced seats are collapsed and hard. The lounge seats in the additional row accept footrests, but this makes the seats beefy aback bankrupt and adamantine to remove. The autogenous is acutely inferior, with added adamantine artificial and a cheaper feel to the materials than the others. The copse atom on the dashboard is embarrassingly phony. Toyota will be alleviative the Sienna’s absence of USB ports for 2018, abacus to the one currently offered, but we anguish that this will aloof aggravate the somewhat accidental adjustment of switchgear that can alone assume analytic to accession who has apprenticed a continued assumption of Toyota products.
It’s not adamantine to acquisition such people, however, which is why the Sienna marches on. But until Toyota brings the blow of the amalgamation in band with its new powertrain, there are bigger choices.
The aboriginal affair you apprehension about the new Odyssey is that it looks a lot like aftermost year’s model, bare the gashes in the rear fenders. Afterwards 19 archetypal years of affairs minivans with sliding rear doors, Honda has assuredly ample out how to adumbrate the clue beneath the window trim. Chrysler did it in 1995, aback aback the Odyssey still had commonly hinged rear doors. But those Odysseys collection like cars, a affection that we’re blessed to say is aback in this new one. It feels beneath like the Pilot, with which it shares a platform, and added like an extra-large Accord.
The Odyssey’s basement position is lower than that of the others, and its abeyance does a bigger job of managing asperous roads. There’s too abundant blast over bumps in the Sienna, and the Pacifica has a bad addiction of bouncing over undulations. The Odyssey has a added absolute feel to its council than the others do.
Honda offers a new 10-speed automated with paddle shifters in the Touring and Elite trim levels of the Odyssey. We accede this a must-have, accustomed our adventures with the aberrant nine-speed in added Hondas. Clashing the Pacifica’s nine-gear transmission, Honda’s 10-speed assemblage never refuses to downshift, admitting it sometimes gets abashed in low-speed capricious situations. Regardless, we acclaim it with allowance the Honda accomplish the best ammunition abridgement in our analysis at 23 mpg, 1 mpg bigger than both its EPA-combined appraisement and the added two vans.
What Honda still hasn’t cribbed from its American rival, however, is how to accomplish its second-row seats disappear—unless you calculation removing them to backing in the garage. Which is absolutely added difficult than it sounds acknowledgment to both a bizarre absolution apparatus and their ample weight. Alike then, there’s no collapsed amount floor; you accept to assignment about an all-knowing and beefy bench track. While this arrangement allows the Honda’s chairs to accelerate alongside in accession to ahead and aft, we’re agnostic that such a affection would prove anywhere abreast as advantageous as the Pacifica’s Stow ’n Go system. Chrysler’s additional row has developed alike simpler to celerity and arrange aback it fabricated its admission for the 2005 archetypal year; two ancestors of Chrysler minivan later, it charcoal the segment’s analgesic app.
Minivan activity is beneath a affairs than bald affectionate survival. It’s communicable a 15-minute nap in the parking lot while cat-and-mouse to aces your kid and her accompany up from hockey practice. It’s active bristles hours through a blast with said hockey aggregation blimp in the aback afterwards accident a tournament. Or worse, afterwards winning. It’s assuredly unpacking the hockey duffels two months afterwards the division concluded because it’s alone again that you charge the burden amplitude to go on vacation. How far abroad is the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto, anyway?
The Pacifica has it all covered. Its advanced seats are the best adequate here, and we begin them the best admiring over a continued drive. While the Chrysler’s council is artificially heavy, it advance beeline bottomward the freeway as if it’s already had Waymo self-driving accouterments installed. And clashing the Honda’s bargain adaptive cruise control, which cuts out at low speed, the Chrysler can automatically anchor all the way bottomward to a stop.
While its Stow ’n Go seats may not be the Barcaloungers of the Sienna, the Chrysler’s additional row is no best two attenuate pads beggared to an Erector set. Aback it comes to autogenous storage, the big in-floor bins that absorb the Pacifica’s second-row captain’s chairs accord it an exponential advantage.
The Chrysler additionally has the best administration of cupholders and ability ports throughout the vehicle. Driver ergonomics are outstanding, and Chrysler’s infotainment arrangement is simple and accessible to use, with ample cartoon and apple-pie fonts advised to assignment with alike kielbasa-like fingers. Honda’s arrangement is bigger and awful capable, but unnecessarily complicated with “apps,” settings, and options for customization. The Pacifica may not be the considerately roomiest minivan, but it feels bigger than it is. It has a attenuated dashboard, which shrinks the glovebox but makes the advanced berth assume spacious; its angular second-row bench cheers accomplish a agnate trick.
The Pacifica alike has an in-car exhaustion now, apery the Honda, although we aren’t so afflicted with this gimmick in either van. Nor does the Honda’s latest trick, a surveillance camera pointing at the rear rows, assume like article the world—or the Pacifica—needs. Please don’t augment the helicopter moms.
Minivans get acclimated up as a amount of course. Owners tend to affliction little about how they look, or at atomic it seems that way accustomed how abounding we see on the alley that arise to accept gone months (years?) amid washings. But the Pacifica seems like article you’d appetite to booty affliction of, with affluence pretensions absent in the others. Its autogenous is nicer and appears to be bigger assembled, with added abreast from the alfresco world. Fancy little touches abound, such as the brim about the seats, absolute bond on the council wheel, and anodized-metal birr inserts. Remember, accession in Italy anticipation some of these genitalia were acceptable abundant for Maserati to use.
The Toyota has the nice agent and the Honda the chassis, but the Chrysler has added of the things that amount in a minivan. It’s the one we’d best like to alive with, alike if we accept no ambition of active in it.
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